Delirious use repetitive language about god, but in retrospect, repetitive language can be annoying no matter what the subject matter. The fact that nu-Christians are sanctimonious, patronising brats doesn’t help.

That’s a weird way of looking at it.

True – if there were nothing to protest about there’d be no protest songs – but I reckon the Vietnamese in the 60s would sacrifice Blowin’ In The Wind if it meant keeping their national identity from the wrath of Communism and having vast numbers of their people killed in the subsequent imperialist American invasion.

Interceptor – I’m not keen on Hicks either, despite devouring his stuff in my teens. Undoubtedly talented and commanding over his followers, his tone leaves me cold. Too much of the ‘I’m your leader’ attitude. And a mullet.

I’ve had this conversation a million times before…

I like Matisyahu, fantastic music but the words do nothing for me. All too Hasidic for my tastes

But I suppose you have to weigh it up. You know, millions of people dying on one hand, Bill Hicks on the other.

Swines – great things as a direct result of religion.

Neutral Milk Hotel
Silver Jews
Klezmer
Bill Hicks
Soren Kierkegaard
The Sistine Chapel
TS Eliot
Isaac Newton
Beck
Graham Greene

Mind you, this Christian take on “secular rock music” is pretty bad too.

I personally think that Jesus was cool. He said some things about, you know, love your brother and all that, that i agree with and in fact, am influenced on a day to day basis by (But I dont’ believe he was the son of ‘God’ who I think is just a figment of Mans imagination)

But why do modern Christians either a) forget this message “And God will rain fire and brimstone on those that don’t worship his son and drop a hundred bucks onto the collection plate!!!”

or

b) relay it with such wanky misty eyed madness that you’d run a mile for fear of being brainwashed into some crazy arsed cult?

Personally I have hated every piece of Christian Rock I’ve ever heard. It’s toss

William Blake- that isn’t God in ‘Urizen’, you know that right?

Gospel music/The blues – the devil’s music if certain crossroads tales are to be beleived, although it actually traces its diatonic roots to African tribal music, forced to cross pollinate with western religious music as it was banned by slave owners.It’s roots have nowt to do with God and plenty to do with expression.

The entire history of pre-20th century Western classical music/Architectural conventions of European churches – These boil down to money. religion is a controlling influence, ideal for keeping the superstitious and ill-educated where they are, a precursor to the military industrial complex. Churches were constantly made grander and larger as architects attempted to bolster the ego’s of their rich patrons, thus ensuring more work-and perhaps a kind of immortality-think of them as a continuation of the Pharoah’s Pyramid. Pre-20th century classical is a case in point for this control system, music was deliberately made hard to understand-hence the European convention of referring to hemi-semi-demi-quavers instead of ‘32nd notes’. Likewise the presence of convoluted devices such as the double sharp, and the altered pitch writing needed for different instruments. You’d need to be highly educated (EG: rich)to learn all this. Likewise, several pieces of church music were banned from ever leaving the Vatican-only getting out when a young Mozart managed to remember the whole bloody thing, a poke in the eye for religion.

And Belle and Sebastian can fuck right off.

…oh sorry, yeah – stupid twats!